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Loved this conversation. The part where y’all talked about perfectionism as a tool of white supremacy that’s keeping us stuck- just WOW. DAMN. This isn’t the first time I’ve heard that related to anti-racism work but this framing was very powerful. Like, we’re going to mess up and that’s part of it. We have to sit in that suck.

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I am perpetually trying to learn this.

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Love this, and love you both!!! I'm over my budget right now (and don't want to wait for next month's check in order to read it!), so I'm on hold for Chrissy's book at my local library. I'm first in line for it, and can't wait!

I'm still a work in progress as far as becoming anti-racist. I would have said I was absolutely not a racist, but that was before I learned more about racism and it brought to light some of the things I thought and did that were indeed truly biased. I was, and am, ashamed of these things. But, I'm still living, so I believe it's not too late to change, and to try to make a difference, too.

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Whew yes, all we can do is get it wrong, learn from it, and start to get it right(er).

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Yes, yes, and yes!!!

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This was such a great conversation! The idea of mourning what is lost when our bodies change was so profound. I’ve felt this loss as I’ve let go of beauty culture and stopped working to hide the physical signs of my chronic illnesses. There can be a lot of pressure to simply feel empowered, but the sense of loss is also real and needs to be acknowledged. I’ll be reading Chrissy’s book!

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Whew, yes.

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What a fascinating interview!

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Sorry to be so late to this as I'm always behind on my email. But - I would so so appreciate some kind of roundup of online, fat-positive, POC-centered, movement activity teachers/facilitators (e.g. yoga, dance). Or even just a thread where people in this substack community can suggest their favorites? I feel a yearning for movement that doesn't feel shameful but also feel overwhelmed about trying a bunch of people out who may just make me feel shitty.

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Such a good Friday Thread idea!!

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I loved everything about this episode! Thank you, Virginia and Chrissy!

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This was a really great interview and I'm so happy you're able to get people like this on the pod Virginia. Definitely a reason that paying for Burnt Toast is worth it!

Also +1 to both Souper Cubes and taking structured classes for hobbies. On the Souper Cubes one thing that blew my mind was sometimes I make chili from Serious Eats recipes. A few of them call for starting the chili with a liquid made with dried chile peppers (instead of chili powder essentially). It's definitely labor intensive, but I discovered that if I just made a big batch of the starter liquid and froze it in the 1/2cup souper cube trays I can just pop one out and plop it into the chili pot whenever I want to start a chili.

For structured classes, I've found that one of the best ways to make new friends as an adult is to find a hobby class that is regular over a period of weeks or months and attend _by yourself_. A lot of people bring existing friends to hobby classes because they're anxious about it, and that's totally fine, but I've found that if you go by yourself you're much more likely to connect with other people in your class and to end up with new friends as a result!

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OOH love this tip about the classes and making friends!

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Can I ask a Souper Cube question? What's your method for getting, say, A LOT of stock into those 2-cup cubes? I'm usually a gallon freezer bag person for my homemade stock, and I can pour it straight from the pot (slightly cooler) into the bags, usually with a buddy to hold open the bag. For the cubes, I guess you ladle it in? Or am I missing some clever way to do this!

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Co-sign the ladle! There can be a little dripping, but the cubes are roomy enough that it's better than when I say, used to try to fill mason jars. And doesn't require a buddy the way the bag system does. The ease of filling is actually one of the things I like best!

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Thank you!

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I usually ladle directly into the tray, but there is the potential for dripping. Another thing I’ve done that’s worked well is to ladle into a big Pyrex measuring cup with a pour edge (holding the Pyrex over the soup pot so anything that missed goes back into the pot), and then use the Pyrex to pour into the cubes.

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Thanks!

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Coming to Chrissy King extremely late and was delighted listening to this interview, subscribed to Chrissy's Substack, and bought her book. Thank you, Virginia. It's a daily process experiencing, understanding, and appreciating myself living as a black woman. This ongoing conversation is important to all of our growth.

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ahh thank you so much for listening and purchasing the book! So excited for you to read it :)

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